For a couple weeks now, two Jehovah's Witness ladies have been coming to my door. At first, I was like, sure, I'll speak with you. Next it was, "Mind if we come in a bit?", which I allowed because I didn't think I would forbid two nice ladies entrance simply because of their beliefs. We found common ground on a few basic issues, such as the creation by the word of God, good intentions of God toward His people, the presence of sin in the world, etc. Then, gradually, a few other things crept in- and I can no longer agree with them. Not only that, I have researched them and found some pretty shocking discoveries about their beliefs, not to mention the fact that the one lady told me some untruths about the Watchtower Society; probably not intentionally, but because Witnesses are fed a lot of propaganda and told to accept the leader's interpretation as truth. In fact, they do not believe that the Scriptures in themselves are sufficient to guide people; they must be accompanied by Watchtower study helps. Above all, they do not accept translations other than their own, the New World Translation; which has been translated and written since the 1950s by less-than-credible 'scholars'.
They will be coming again next week, and have requested the new address of where we are moving to. I am planning on declining that request, telling them I do not wish to further discuss these things with them since we are not going to agree anyway, and ask them to please refrain from making attempts to contact me. If they persist, I plan to present them with some of my findings on their beliefs.
I would appreciate any input from any of you who may have had dealings with Watchtower people on this level, and some advice on effective ways of, well, simply put, getting rid of them! I prefer something quick and painless- I am very busy with this moving/renovating stuff, and do not have time to stand around arguing all day. I also request prayer- I'm pretty nervous about it, since I have never before asked someone to leave my house. Any stories or recommendations from you would be great. Thanks!
I will report back....
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I had my husband get rid of the two ladies that didn't want to leave us alone.
He told them that we are happy with our beliefs and please do not come back. That was 3 months ago so it seems it has worked.
@Kristenmomof3 - Thanks. That's kinda what I plan to tell them: I am not an unbeliever, I am a child of God, so the only reason you are here is to try to convert me to YOUR beliefs; sorry, but that's not happening. If that doesn't work, yes- I will try the husband!
:)
fundamental ideal... is Jesus Christ God? Any cult or whatever denies the deity of Christ... I had 2 sweet Mormon women come to my door and say that Jesus is LIKE God... but they couldn't stray from that... while I asserted that Jesus IS God... then stated that our sins couldn't be absolved by something like the divine but that it needed to BE divine in order to be accepted and our sins absolved... take close note as their wording and connotations on how they talk about Jesus...
@leadworshipper82@revelife - I noticed that already. :) They will pray directly to God (Jehovah) but will refrain from addressing Christ directly in prayer by saying 'your son Jesus'; thus, they would be implying that Christ in incapable of hearing and answering their prayer.
@leadworshipper82@revelife - And thanks... I will remember that.
@mikenpeg - and it's not just an implication that Christ is incapable... it's a massive heretical notion that Christ ISN'T The Christ... upon further study of this cult, you'll find that Jesus is some created being rather than God the Son...
Below is a website argument that I learned and used with them. I was quite effective.
http://www.watchman.org/jw/witness.htm
Don't let them change the subject. Don't move to any other topic until they get God right.
~Michael
There are a lot of Jehovah's witnesses around here and I really have a burden for them. They are throwing their lives into a way of living. If I have learned one thing, there is no discussing things--they are trained for debate and taught not to believe anything that is not directly from the Watchtower. So showing them errors of their own beliefs (like the link in the comment above) is one of the best initial ways to get them to have a second thought.
My thing is, I know that one of the strongest persuading factors is relationship. But it's almost impossible to form a relationship when all they are worried about is getting their "witnessing time" in and making converts. I have gotten to know some of these ladies and they really are great people. I would love to be their friend, but I am not interested in arguing about their beliefs 24-7. It's so frustrating.
Maybe next time they come over I'll tell them I would love to get to know them, but we must agree not to talk about religion for the first few months...?
I had some ladies come here pretty frequently over the course of maybe two years - and they always came when I had about two children crying and tugging on my skirts. I always thought, "Can't they see that I am not even listening to them??" I read some of their stuff and found untruth but never confronted them. Afew times I took the initiative to give them more than they asked for when they asked "How are you?" by really testifying. That seemed to sort of intimidate them - I was feeding THEM MY information which was uncomfortable for them.
There is also nothing wrong with saying, "This is not the best time for me, please come back in the evening when Michael is here." :) :)
Jolynn
We have not let them into the house simply because we know they are there to try and convert us into their religion. I am always friendly and talk about family and so far their visits have been short...outside.
We had Jehovah's witness people stopping in here on a regular basis (every couple weeks) a few years ago, and I got very annoyed with it. Invariably, I was busy with something and Joe wasn't home. The last time, I was in the middle of fixing food and was majorly ticked that they were interrupting me again. I told them that I evidently won't change their minds on what they believe and they definately won't change my mind, so would they please not stop in again. They were polite and took down our address and they have not returned. Thank God!